Sydney traffic is so notoriously bad our state government commissioned a public transport app to show us how late our next bus is running.
But if you think our roads are clogged, wait until you see the masses of cars heading home for the holidays in Los Angeles, California.
Aerial footage showed bumper-to-bumper cars leaving the city at peak hour as families tried to get ahead of other travellers for Thursday's US Thanksgiving holiday.
It isn't a total nightmare: traffic is so dense that the cars' headlights have lit up both highway lanes with festive red and white.
There's LA traffic. There's Thanksgiving traffic. And then there's LA Thanksgiving traffic (via @ABC7) pic.twitter.com/e8gojmxY44??? Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) November 23, 2016
For a city that has repeatedly taken out the title for worst traffic in America, some locals are nonetheless horrified at what they are seeing:
I could cook a whole thanksgiving meal, eat it, go back for seconds and still be in the same place in this traffic??? Andrea Russett (@AndreaRussett) November 22, 2013
Others, though, aren't phased:
They posted this exact same video last year??? Quintein (@Quintein) November 22, 2017
But then again, as one kid remarked, isn't Thanksgiving about watching slow-moving traffic pass you?
Me: Are you going to watch the Thanksgiving Day parade on TV?5-year-old: No.Me: Why not?5: It's just watching traffic.??? James Breakwell (@XplodingUnicorn) November 21, 2017